on to taxes. if your ticket is elected, who will pay more and who will pay less in taxes, vice president? >> the middle class will pay less and people making a million dollars will pay slightly more. let me give you one concrete example. the continuation of the bush tax cuts, we're arguing the tax cuts for the wealthy should be allowed to expire. of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, 800 million -- billion dollars of that goes to people making a minimum of a million dollars. we see no justification in these economic times for those and they're patriotic americans, they're not asking for this continued tax cut. they're not suggesting it, but my friends are insisting on it. 120,000 families, by continuing that tax cut, will get an additional $500 billion in tax relief in the next ten years. and their income is an average of $8 million. we want to extend permanently the middle class tax cut permanently, from the bush middle class tax cut. these guys won't allow us to. su know what they're saying? we